Монгольские народы в мире (демография, взаимоотношения...)

There are about 1.9 mln. khalkha-mongols in the world and they make only about 22% of total mongols.

So, you can't say that the khalkhas are the core of mongols.

By numbers, khorchins /2.1 mln in Inner Mongolia/ and kharchins /2.0 mln in Inner Mongolia/ are the most among mongols.

By the way, there are 80 thousand jalairs in Inner Mongolia.

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haravuu ter, iim l bna daa!

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Halh, buriad, harchin gedgee ch sain oilgoogui baij hamaa namaagui mongoliin tsum, gol, mundag ni gehchilen burah yum aa......olon hun umnoos chini ichitsgeej baina shuu!

Hen hend heleed baigaag taavarlaj baigaa bizdee..

Добавлено: 09.12.04, 07:23 +0000

Korennye zemli halha, reki Herlen, Tuul, Onon i Orhon vsegda yavlyalis i yavlyautsa tsentrom ne tolko mongolov, vobsche vseh kochevnikov Evrazii. I vobsche, halha vse ravno yavlyautsa po vsem pokazatelyam tsentrom mongolov. V takie vremena nujen horoschii tsentr chtoby opiratsa. Hotya ne vidno poka chto halhastsy sami eto razumeyut.

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enhd,

bi chamaig sanaanasa zohioj baina gej heleegui. Bi "Halh tovchoo" ene teriig guilgen unshij l baisan. Gehdee minii heleh geed baigaa yum yu geheer zarim humuus(heniig helj buigaa helsen bilee) Halh gedeg neriig genet boroony daraa urgasan muug shig bodood hiad, borjigin, taichuud, aralud gm ter uyed tuuhen uureg guitsetgej baisan ovog aimguudaas ogt tusad n avch uzeh geed baidag yum. uuniig n bichvel zugeer gesen sanaag gargasan yum.

Deer bas neg hun nadad zoriulj yum heleed baih shig sanagdlaa.

Bi mundag ene ter gej heleegui, tsum gedeg n odoo uyed halh mongolyn nutag deer l tusdaa uls baina shuudee, iimees halh mongolchuud bid ch gesen ner turuu bodoj tusgaar mongol uls gedeg hundet nereeree bolon busad olon uildleeree oros hyatadad baigaa olon mongolchuudaa tataj, demjij baih yostoi humuus n yaah argagui mun gedeg utgaar helsen yum.

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Сайн байцгаана уу эрхэмуудээ?
Харчин,Хорчин Монголчууд бол хамгийн их хятадчисан улсууд шүү дээ.Овормонголын зүүн омнод талын Жирэм,Хянган аймгийн нутагт амьдардаг.Манж нарт хамгийн туруунд дагаар орсон туухтэй.Овормонголын монгол ундэстэний тоо ер нь хэд вэ?Миний нэг танил оорийгоо монгол гэх боловч сайн байна уу ч гэж хэлж чадахгүй.Овоо нь ч гэл уу эмээ нь ч гэлуу монгол хун байсан гэсэн.Хятадад монгол ундэстэн бол хоёр хуухэдтэй байж болно,их сургуульд ороход хонгололттэй зэрэг давуу эрхтэй байдаг.Ийм учраас олон эрлийз хумуус монгол гэж явдаг юм шиг санагдсан.Ер нь ийм хумуус нэлээн олон тааралдсан шуу.

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Bid buhnii ovog deedes hoorondoo evdreltsen muudaad busdin idesh bolson gunigt tuuh baidag.Bi halh chi dorvod gedeg jalga dovni uzeleesee hezee salah yum be?Halh,torguud,oold,buriad bugd l Mongol undesten.Bid eh oronoo l hogjuuleh heregtei baina. Mongol uls l Mongol undestenii soyol,ulamjlaliig hadgalan uldsen gej bi boddog.

Добавлено: 09.12.04, 14:18 +0000 **sansarana**

It's not important to be able to speak Mongolian, to be a mongol. gej heleed baina shdee.

Not all mongols can understand Khalkh cyrillic or khalkh latin, so why I should write in those.

Go to Shiliin gol, Alshaa, Hulunbuir, Ordos, then you would know what is real Inner Mongolia.

Even though chinese constutitute 83% of Inner Mongolia's population, 78% of them live in few big cities and along the Yellow river which is only 5% of Inner Mongolia's territory.

So, ''inner mongolians are sinicized" is a wrong stereotype.

Добавлено: 09.12.04, 17:35 +0000

Bidnii dund yalzarsan undug bna gedgiig sansarma avhai heleed bgaa busuu?

Добавлено: 09.12.04, 18:21 +0000 **sansarana**

There are few facsists /khalkha-centrists, or mongolchuudyn dund yas hayagchid, hagalan butargagchid ch gej helj boloh yum daa/ among us too.

I wonder, if they realize that what kind of negative causes they bring to mongols.

Read this book "Nationalism and Hybridity in Mongolia"
Author: Bulag, Uradyn Erden

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=1385623

Добавлено: 09.12.04, 20:21 +0000

Разумеется, Халха получила независимость благодаря проискам русского царизма. А НАСТОЯЩАЯ Монголия - осталась Внутри Китая.

Что такое Халха в историческом плане? Это место сражений между ойратами и маньчжурами, объединенных с "внутренними" монголами.

Добавлено: 10.12.04, 08:32 +0000

Interesnym takje yavlyaetsa to chto imenno horchiny i harchiny, kotorye kitaizirovalis naibolee, ochen natsionalisticheski nastroeny. No takje sredi nih nahodyatsa bolshinstvo pro-kitaiskih "mongolov". Vobsche, oni bolshe vseh smeschautsa s kitaitsami, osobenno harchiny, bez vsyakih tam zapretov i t.d., smeshannyi narod.

I don't get you Sansarana, you said you didn't consider yourself mongol, then talk about mongol unity, what's your problem? If there's ever a hope of mongols uniting in any way, that won't happen without halhs. Halha truly is the core of all mongols right now, so what's wrong with being halha-centric? Inner mongolians are the same as us anyway, it's mongols in Russia that have the most problems.

Добавлено: 10.12.04, 12:55 +0000 **Re: sansarana**

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